The Obedience Corner 

By Christy Thomas

Stationary Position: The long Sit and Down

Much has been written about the teaching of the long sit and down position as well as problem solving when the dog gets creative and beings to break. In my opinion, there are several important components that go into teaching the long down and sit. First, the dog needs to completely understand the position (sit or down) prior to ever being put into a stay situation. Next, the stationary position of the stays needs to be done in such a way that it builds confidence and not stress in the dog. Finally, it needs some proofing and a slow progression to the out of site portion of this exercise when doing Open work.

Sounds pretty easy, but don’t be fooled, the long sit and down are one of the most problematic exercise when showing in obedience! Now, we’ll look at each portion a little bit closer. First, it is important to teach the sit and the down until the dog totally understands the command. The dog should be able to do the position all around the house, outside, at a training building etc. In other words, the dog needs to really know the position, prior to ever being put in a formal stay. Next, lets look at the actual position that we put the dog into. I like to teach a down, flip to a hip and curl a paw down. This starts at a young age and is insisted upon each time it is practiced. I also make sure the hind feet are tucked up under the rear of the dog (if possible) and the front feet are square on the sit. Once in a while, the standard has to be compromised with individual dogs. For example, Echo automatically went into a "frog" position on the down. I tried to change this, but it was natural for him to do this position, so I my command was changed to, "down, frog" (great fun for those next to me and onlookers!). Indy, on the other hand would only do the sphinx down. Being my first obedience dog, I didn’t understand the importance of position and did not teach it as a young dog. She broke many stays in her career!! It was so easy for her to break the position compared to Skye’s "down, flip, tuck" and Echo’s "down, frog". So make sure you spend the time to work on position early on! Dogs that have a hard time pulling their feet under them in a sit position will have more of a tendency to slide, so work on getting as tight of a sit as the dog is capable of.

Teaching confidence in the stationary positions is very important and often difficult to do. I think human nature is to start doing the stay and building distance before building confidence. I see this in pet classes and competitive classes, ego seems to get in the way of good training and the handler starts moving away from the dog way too soon. Then they run in and correct the dog, the dog then becomes stressed and won’t hold the position and the cycle repeats itself. Once a confidence issue develops, it is very difficult to fix. To me, this is a critical step and the time to develop the stay and then the distance (without any distractions or other dogs) is very important. Once the dog is confident with the handler at a distance and staying in position for a length of time, then they can be put into a more formal stay with other dogs. When this step is taken, make sure to go back to in front of the dog and slowly build the distance again-you’ve changed one of the variables.

As the dog gains confidence in the formal stay position, with other dogs for the duration of time needed in the ring, then some mild distractions can be added. I often don’t time my stays, even in the classes I teach. I don’t want to be so predictable that at exactly one minute I return after the novice sit stay. I like to vary the time, usually on the longer side then shorter. One form of proofing that I use is putting the dogs in all sorts of different formations while doing the stays. There might be two rows, with the dogs facing each other, some might be facing one way and the dog next to them facing the opposite directs. Sometimes we have their rears close together in a circle-use your imagination. One word of caution, make sure the group is trustworthy when doing this. The last thing anyone wants is for their dog to be attacked on the stays. Remember you are your dog’s protector and if you are training stays somewhere and are not comfortable, ask to remover your dog. Obviously you can’t do this at a show, but you can blow an entry if you are really concerned.

One last thought, make sure to be very consistent when you’ve asked your dog to be in a position. Don’t ask them to sit and then walk away and start talking with someone to the point that the dog gets board and moves position. This is your fault as a handler, but in most cases the dog gets correct or gets a way with it. So be consistent!!!

Happy Training!

Christy, Skye and Echo

 

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Play to Build Drive
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Consistent Straight Sits
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Articles by Christy Thomas

An Introduction to Christy Thomas
How to Choose an Obedience Instructor
Obedience Training Resources
Time for a New Puppy
A New Beginning a New Puppy
Retrieving And What I Have Learned Along The Way
More Retrieving And What I've Learned Along The Way
Heeling with the Forging Dog
Keeping Attention While Heeling
Thoughts About An OTCH
Thoughts About An OTCH part 2
Showing, Training and Fitting it All Into Our Busy Lives
Reflecting on the past looking forward to the future
Beyond Teaching The Signal Exercise
The Stand For Exam
Teaching Stationary Positions



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